‘The Five’ co-hosts weigh squatters tormenting homeowners and landlords across the nation as laws make it harder to remove them.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> SQUATTERS ARE TAKEN OVER AMERICA A GROWING NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS ARE BEING TORMENTED BY PEOPLE LIVING FREELY AND HELPED AS THEY DON’T. IN REFUSING TO LEAVE. ACTUALLY GOING TO JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, TO MEET WITH SOME PROPERTY OWNERS WHO CLAIM THAT THEIR HOME WAS RAVAGED.
>> WHEN YOU CAME FOR THE FIRST TIME TO LOOK AT ALL THIS WHAT WAS GOING TO YOUR MIND? >> YOUR HEART JUST DROPS AND YOU JUST WONDER WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE CAN DO THIS. >> AM CURIOUS IF YOU DECIDED WE ARE GOING TO BARGE IN AND TAKE A PROPERTY BACK?
>> WE WOULD’VE BEEN ARRESTED WE WERE TOLD THAT VERY CLEARLY. DO NOT ATTEMPT. >> IT’S NOT JUST JACKSONVILLE IT’S A BIG PROBLEM IN PHILADELPHIA WHERE FICTION CAN COST THOUSANDS A LEGAL EXPERT THERE SO SQUATTERS APPEAR TO HAVE THE UPPER HAND AND IN MINNEAPOLIS A GROUP OF VIOLENT SQUATTERS INFILTRATED AN
APARTMENT BUILDING AND CAUSING RESIDENTS TO FEAR FOR THEIR SAFETY. ONE PERSON SAYS THAT SHE SUFFERED A BROKEN BONE WHEN SHE TRIED TO STOP A SQUATTER FROM STEALING HER MAIL. >> WE ARE SENDING OUT AGENTS AND THEY ARE FIGURING OUT THAT THERE SQUATTERS IN THESE PROPERTIES IT’S REALLY HARD GETTING AMOUNT.
>> THEY’VE BROKEN A HOLE INTO THE WALL TO A STORAGE ROOM. RIGHT? THEY ARE IN THERE. THEY ARE IN THERE. I FEEL ABANDONED I FEEL LIKE I’M LIVING IN A GARBAGE DUMP. >> TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR INTERVIEWS. >> YOU’LL SEE ON CROSS-COUNTRY BUT THESE PEOPLE THE COPS AND IT
WAS FAKE THEY HAVE NO DISCRETION ANYMORE. THEY PRINTED OUT FAKE PAYMENTS AND LANDLORDS. BECAUSE THE LEGAL SYSTEM THEY GIVE 30 DAYS THE PLAINTIFF HAS TO MAKES A CASE IN COURT AND IN THE MEANTIME THEIR TRASH IN A PLACE AND GUESS WHAT THEY LOSE THEY GET EVICTED IN THE MOVE MOV
TO THE NEXT HOUSE. IT’S NOT JUST JACKSONVILLE IS HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IS NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SELLING THEIR HOME SO YOU WANT TO GO ON VACATION FOR TWO WEEKS AND COME BACK? THERE’S A COUPLE THAT IS MOVED INTO YOUR HOUSE THEY DECIDE TO
PUT PICTURES UP AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEIR HOUSE. IF YOU CALL THE COPS THEY SAY LOOK, THIS IS OUR SPOT. YOU HAVE TO GO NOT THEM. SO YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CAMERAS UNLOCK CENTER DOORS. THIS UNFORTUNATELY UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE LAWS THEY CANNOT COME SAVE YOU.
>> THE COPS CANNOT COME SAVE YOU BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU SAY LOOK I WANT TO FILE A TRESPASS CHARGE AGAINST THESE PEOPLE THE COPS MAY BE MY CONSIDERATE BUT AT THE VERY LEAST THEY HAVE IDENTIFY THAT YOU’VE COMPLAINED OF THEM SQUATTING ON YOUR PROPERTY. THE COPS ARE MOST LIKELY GONNA
SAY THIS IS A CIVIL CASE YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE LANYARD COURT WHATEVER IT’S CALLED. EVERY STATE HAS DIFFERENT RULES FOR LANDLORD-TENANT. THERE ARE CERTAIN STATES THAT A VARIED TENANT FRIENDLY. NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, TENANT UNFRIENDLY IS PENNSYLVANIA. AND HE GOES ON LIKE THAT. YOU CAN END UP TRYING FOR A YEAR
TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE OUT. THERE IS ONE INTERESTING POINT IN ALL OF THIS FIRST OF ALL THEY CAN DAMAGE YOUR PROPERTY AND THEY COULD BE WORTH NOTHING SO YOU SUE THEM. YOU MIGHT EVEN NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE YOU’LL NEVER GET A JUDGMENT, YOU’RE NEVER GET THE JUDGMENT PAID.
SOME CALLED ADVERSE POSSESSION SOMEONE SOMEONE IS LIVING IN PROPERTY I LEARNED THAT SOME LAW SCHOOL. IF IT’S OPEN CONTINUOUS, EXCLUSIVE AND ADVERSE AND NOTORIOUS OCEAN THEY ULTIMATELY CAN GAIN TITLE TO THE PROPERTY SO THEY OWN THE PROPERTY. PEOPLE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL YOU ARE BUT HAVE TO BE VERY ON TOP
OF YOUR OWN PROPERTY AND KNOW WHAT THE LAW IS IN YOUR JURISDICTION BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE I BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS I OWN THIS PLACE. >> ODYSSEY DURING THE PANDEMIC FOR ALL OF THESE MORATORIUMS ON EVICTIONS AND IT REALLY CHANGED THE FACE OF HOW PEOPLE ARE LIVING.
IT SEEMS NOW THAT THE SYSTEM WHICH IS BEING COMPLETELY ABUSED ABUSED. >> Jesse: THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS ON HOW TO HANDLE THIS OPTION. NUMBER ONE, YOU TURN OFF ALL OF THE UTILITIES. YOU TURN OFF THE POWER AND YOU TURN OFF THE WATER. TREAT THEM LIKE A ROGUE NATION AND YOU MIGHT HAVE A
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS ON HER HANDS BUT THAT’S JUST THE DO. >> THIS COUPLE TRIED TO DO THAT THAT — >> Jesse: YOU OUT SQUAT THE SQUATTER YOU SEEK THEM OUT IN THE MORNING IF THEY LEAVE THEN YOU GO IN WITH A NOTARIZED LEASE OVER THE DEED AND YOU GET IN AND
THEN WHEN THE COMIC IS A SORRY NO I’M CALLING THE COPS AND YOU HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE. >> YOU CAN’T DO THAT EITHER YOU GET CHARGE FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASSING. >> NOT IF YOU HAVE A NOTARIZED LEASE. >> Judge Jeanine: NO ONE IS GOING TO ENFORCE IT.
>> Jesse: GO THE LEGAL ROUTE WHICH MY LEAST PREFERRED ROUTE AND YOU MIGHT COME SOMETIMES YOU’RE RIGHT IT CAN TAKE EIGHT MONTHS. FOR THIS TO BE ADJUDICATED BECAUSE IN SOME OF THESE JURISDICTIONS THEY TREATED TENANT IN THE SQUATTER THE SAME. GOOD LUCK IN ON ARSONIST DUKE ALSO GO THAT WAY.
I DON’T RECOMMEND THEM. I DON’T RECOMMEND THAT. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> WOULD BE LIKE TO CLEAN UP A LITTLE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO BE INVISIBLE. RUN TV AT LEAST. >> YOU MENTION THE FEDERAL MORATORIUM ON EVICTIONS SO THAT ENDED AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE FEDERAL AND STATE
RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS ALL OF THOSE HAVE NOW EXPIRED IN THE COURSE OF THREE MONTHS SO THAT IS WHY YOU’RE SEEING A PLURAL OF FEDERATION OF SQUATTERS BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO COULDN’T AFFORD RENT BUT WERE LIVING RENT-FREE SINCE THE JENNA PANDEMIC ARE NOW GETTING KICKED OUT ON THEIR OWN AND HAVE
NOWHERE TO GO THERE INVADING OTHER PEOPLE’S HOMES I THINK THAT’S WHY THIS IS GOING ON. SO HOW DO YOU SOLVE IT? I’VE NO IDEA. NO ARSON. THIS PROPERTY LAWYER IN PHILLY YESTERDAY WHO TOLD ME IN HER STATE IT’S GONNA COST THE JUDGE COULD PROBABLY TELL US MORE ABOUT THIS, IT’S GOING TO COST
$5100 JUST TO START LEGAL PROCEEDINGS IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST SQUATTERS. >> PENNSYLVANIA AS LANDLORD FRIENDLY. >> 5100, THAT SOUND LIKE A LOT OF MONEY TO ME. THAT MEANS IN LIKE NEW YORK IT’S PROBABLY EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. [LAUGHTER] ARE THERE ANY OPTIONS IF YOU DON’T HAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
TO GO AFTER THESE PEOPLE? OR ARE YOU STUCK? >> Judge Jeanine: YOU CAN GO TO TENANT COURT AND FILE IT YOURSELF. YOU FILE IT YOURSELF BUT THAT USUALLY IS A FILING FEE, WHAT IS A FILING FEE? TO GET PRO BONO? DO YOU GET LEGAL AID? >> AND THE TIME LOST.
>> I LOVE THE WAY THAT JESSE THINKS, YOU THINK LIKE A TEXAN. YOU DO. YOU’RE NOT CAN BE ABLE TO DO YOU CAN’T DO THAT. TEXAS WILL COME AT YOU WITH GUNS. THAT’S ANOTHER STORY. [LAUGHTER] >> YOU CAN CATCH MORE THE STORY
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Those laws need to change immediately.
They already did this movie, 1990 movie Pacific Heights.
They need to get rid of squatters rights
I hope FOX doesn't can Jesse for him joking about committing arson on a squatted home. 😬
Imagine if all these people tired of squatting and crime just started voting Republican
I'm a landlord and if somebody was squatted in my house and refused to leave I'm going to put a mask on and take matters into my own hands
Don't get the vandalism. WTH? Isn't that breaking and entering.
You guys should probably have new jobs lined up. The communist are coming for you. Tucker was first. This country is crap unless we vote out this swamp. They will come after Christians next. That is how satan works, his name is brandon and he craps in a diaper, in his basement clueless to what is going on.
Very shocking homeless people are taking over ones properties in the American cities. Have a great fabulous wonderful day.
this is so awful! i feel bad for those home owners
The fact you can get arrested for taking your property back is absolutely mind-boggling. Law abiding citizens have been failed by the state.
Took in homeless out of pity. She destroyed property, stole everything that wasn,'t bolted down.costs thousands to evict! No more bums on my property !
Um , yah , I know what they are saying . If the property is not occupied by you , it’s free game . There is no defense of property .
There is no defense of others for others .
It is an assaultive action if you try . And you will go to jail !
I mean we bought this property fair and square and a squatter with no title can take it away from us .
And here’s why . Adverse possession . If they live there long enough , they can claim they own it . But the law does give you cirtain rights . But you have to prove them liars . Include the telephone and electric in the rent . And then show the court .
If the squatters are not paying . It will show on the bill . The electric company won’t like that , but what other choice do you have ?
Note ; if you don’t pay the bill , the electric company will pull the meter .
That's the time when you get a few of your buddies and some aluminum bats, then go re-take your home !!
Remember Equality-All that matters is if your Black you can do whatever you want!
America is a mess. Lot`s of poor people around with no places to stay.
Thank you Fox for actually reporting the news. This is awful. I would hate to be stuck in this situation as a landlord.
Do these people know what the definition of a squatter is? Someone moving into a vacant home or unresided home still owned but in the process of being sold or rented whereby someone illegally moves in, isn't a squatter. An abandoned house completely abandoned and someone illegally makes it their home. That's a squatter. Rupert Murdoch ought to education his staff at fox news.
Bolts, bars and bobby traps will deter these squatters.