New York Times reporter Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs scoured through Idaho killings suspect Bryan Kohberger’s past internet posts. He discusses what he found with CNN anchor Erin Burnett.#CNN #News
The New York Times obtaining chilling posts, it says are from the Idaho murder suspect Brian Kabaka as a teenager. Time sharing screengrabs of the post without front in which coworker reportedly says he feels no emotion, a little remorse. One says, quote, As I hug my family, I look into their faces.
I see nothing. It is like I am looking at a video game. OUTFRONT now, Nicholas Vogel Burrows, the reporter who broke this story. And Nick, I know that you identified and have now read through hundreds of messages from about a decade of time that you say were written by Koeberg or so.
This would go from the time he was a teenager all the way until now. Tell me more about what stood out to you in these posts. Yeah, so it begins with these posts on a forum website when he’s about 16 years old and he’s talking about feeling a range of mental health conditions
Or problems with his life. He talks about not being able to feel emotions, feeling like he’s detached, from the world. And as you mentioned, that when he hugs his own family, he sees nothing. He also describes looking at his life and going through the motions like it’s a video game,
And he’s really hard on himself saying he feels worthless, that he’s a jerk to people in his life and doesn’t feel bad about it afterwards. He also talks particularly about his dad saying he treats his dad like dirt even though he thinks of him as a good guy.
And it’s it’s this is all back when he’s in about high school in his later teen years. And what we know about his life after that is that he ends up becoming addicted to heroin around the time that he graduated high school in 2013. And he’s in and out of rehab.
But then what’s kind of interesting is is after that it seems like his life turns around somewhat. He goes to community college and gets start studying psychology and starts messaging other friends about saying he’s he’s interested in studying the minds of criminals. It seems like he’s found a passion of some kind
In psychology and criminology. Wow. And then he ends up going of course, as we now to across the country from Pennsylvania, where he grew up to Washington state last summer and starts a Ph.D. program in criminology there. So it’s amazing to see this. And you’ve had a chance to read all through this,
Which which has to be difficult. You say that one of his friends told you that coworker suffered from a neurological condition called a visual snow, where people basically, as you describe it, see scattered dots like sort of static on a on a television to people of a certain age.
One of the posts you shared with us says, and I quote, What you shared with us is as if the ringing in my ears and the fuzz in my vision is simply all the demons in my head mocking me. What else do you know about the context there?
Yeah, the visual snow is a really little understood condition. It’s like you said, it’s static in your vision, like old television. And it there’s really the causes still not fully clear, but it really can be debilitating for some people. You know, I want to be clear. It’s not a sign of mental illness
And it’s not something that anyone has said could explain these these heinous killings. But it’s something that he complained a lot about as a teenager, both to friends and on these online posts. And that was coupled with his complaints about life in general. All right. Well, Nick, thank you very much.
I appreciate your sharing your reporting with us and some of those posts is disturbing as they are as people try to understand this. Thank you. And on the back of Nick’s reporting, let’s now bring in Jim Fallon. He’s a neuroscientist and professor of psychiatry and human behavior at UC Irvine.
So, Jim, you know, you hear Nick, The New York Times reporter talking about Coburg are suffering from a condition called visual snow and the Times, as he referenced this with the initials V. S in an online post that says, when I get home, I mean, to my family, this started when voice did
I felt no emotion. Is there anything you can tell us about this visual snow condition? Well, the visual snow is often associated with migraine. And it’s it’s thought to be generated by hyper stimulated neurons. The base of the temporal lobe. That’s where visual processing, a lot of visual processing occurs.
And so, yes, it’s it’s debilitating and almost nothing is known about it. But it is a syndrome that you know, it’s you know, you never hear about it being associated with murder or anything like that. Although if you read the rest of his post and it seems clear that he’s got
A depersonalization syndrome and which is a dissociative disorder, where you feel separated from yourself. And is that when you’re talking about, as Nick was just saying, you know, sort of when he looks at the faces of his family members, he just says he feels nothing. Is that that’s what you’re referring to?
Well, yes. You know, you have on the top of your head right here in the spiritual parietal cortex. You have a GPS system. But what it does is it puts together your whole world. It tells you where your eyes are, relationship to your head, but relationship to the world.
And then it adds an emotion to that. And all of that apparatus seems to be damaged. And so he doesn’t even connect with himself. So he doesn’t even have self empathy, which is extraordinary. All right. And this lack of empathy toward others in himself. You often see it in psychopaths.
I’m not saying he’s a psychopath, but it’s such a curious combination of things. But, you know, he was a heroin addict and the heroin can can trigger this dissociation, this depersonalization syndrome. It’s like you’re living in a dream where you’re watching yourself you can see this in schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder,
Different psychiatric disorders where people feel separated from themselves. You see in people who take hallucinogens. Yes. And they were they tried. And so you sit in dream states, we measure all sorts of dreams or you see this. And so anybody who’s had these strange dreams where they’re hanging over themselves or an Anastasia.
And so we people have experiences, but not all the time. It’s not they don’t feel that that it’s occurring 100% of the time. In his case, it seems and he’s living this all the time, like he’s in a dream state and a very disturbing, very disturbing state. Well, Jim, thank you very much.
He knows all the words. He knows he knows the he studied this. Right. That and that, I think, is the most bizarre part about it. Right. Is able to make that connection and able to study it all as well and choose that that entire path of learning. Thank you so much.
I appreciate your time, Jim.
I’d say bullshit on the dope causing it, definitely done a lot of opiates and other shit and that wasn’t the cause, it was how people treated me, they either didn’t care or were trying to fight me, after a while I just stopped caring about everything, wasn’t the drugs lol
A true sociopath. Textbook.
Visual snow !?!?!?🤣 COME ON ,ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?!?!
That profile suits Chandler Halderson as well.
Psychopath found his meaning in College and Criminology.
That's fuc*ing terrifying 😳
Did no one read Camus’ The Stranger? Why would his emotional issues have anything to do with any crime happening or not
So he’s not only a murderer, a heroin addict, a sociopath, and could care less about anyone including his family……lovely.
Making "They live" a little more relevant by the day
Can't stand to even look at the Monster! 🤨
Visual snow or pixelated vision is associated with schizophrenia. Reminds me of the greatJapanese artist Yayoi Kusama who is currently doing a collaboration with LV. Her iconic polka dot art is a result of the visual distortion’s that come from her schizophrenic disorder.
His defence blame internet interesting.
Heavy drug addiction, coupled with severely low self esteem.. and who knows what over the counter meds? Also for him to loose so much weight- what was he eating/ we need food for all sorts of brain processes- 1 c mixed up puppy – eh 😞 . Tragic
If you knew ANYTHING at all about criminal psychology, you’d recognise those teenage posts as posts another angst ridden teen wrote !! BK is rewriting this stuff properly to appear more interesting or get attention from school when he was about 14/15
Depersonalised my ass ., he was a teen reading up on infamous teens
At 15 how does he know and recognise remorse etc ?
Experts my ass
He’s feeling emotions now and not good ones
Don't blame the drugs CNN.
Drugs don't kill people, people do!
Imagine being that screwed up in the head I got problems but hell I’m a ray of sun compared to this lunatic 😂
NYT journalist plagiarizes work done by the creators of Hidden True Crime channel and presents it as his own work in the NYT.
I have sympathy for him. But I don't understand why he just didn't kill himself if he was that miserable. To take the lives of 4 ppl and inflict so much pain on so many ppl is just plain EVIL! Suicide would have been admirable, killing others is cowardly.
When toxicology reports come back I think it will show that these kids were on heavy drugs, like maybe took a bunch of xanax and it made it easy kills for BK. Also the two girls that survived were probably on them, they all probably got some and took them together which might explain why she opened the door and just shut it. She was probably off it so much she fell asleep and many hours later is why she called after they went through the house and got rid of whatever drugs they knew were there
Shame on you CNN for reporting FALSE information! The NYT Reporter NICHOLAS BOGEL-BURROUGHS lied and is taking credit for information he didn't find. That information was discovered by the Team at Hidden True Crime. News Nation confirmed those documents were provided by Hidden True Crime at least 5 days before the liar at NYT published the information as his own. When you later came back in making a fake attempt at clearing the situation up, instead of saying the NYT reporter lied, taking credit for someone elses research. You gave both THC & NYT credit. When in fact the NYT doesn't deserve credit. They need to be called out by ALL news outlets for what their reporter did. He should be terminated for lying about the story, especially when he went on national television saying he discovered that information.
I think he has self empathy..he possibly killed Because his instagrams were ignored..very aware of himself
3.2 million views and 9k likes…. CNN is a bot media source
This older guy that said "I'm not saying hes a phycopath" then wtf is he lmaoo, he killed a bunch of people.
You don't need empathy to know that killing people is wrong. You took someone's life from them that enjoyed life, you took someone's loved one..this dude is a killer for thrill and/or this was his "shot" to feel. Just as you don't need religion to know that murder is wrong.
It's a horrible situation 😕 and there should be more research and planning to accommodate people like this when they are young, so we can avoid tragedy.
New york times dis not break this. You need to retract that, apologize and credit the individuals who found this info.
Such persons are walking dead. They have murdered their own souls and heart and Satan can rule in the empty abyss.
You can feel nothing and also not kill people.
This story was NOT broken by Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs!!!! This IS information that was discovered by Hidden True Crime!!!
Shame on you for calling Hidden True Crime excellent research and reporting, "speculation, misleading, etc." and mocking them!!! And shame on Nicholas for claiming someone else's research & reporting as his own!!!
Everyone feeling sorry for this creep saying poor thing didn't get help. Wasn't his mom a psychologist of some kind? I feel sorry for the innocent victims, period.
I pray they give him Death . He deserves only the best .
He has mental illness. I can't even imagine how hard it has to be to live like that. I'm not trying to excuse anything, just saying, he has mental illness.
Smdh, it’s sad we only reach out and realize mental illness when it’s too late… when their in pain they go ignored!! But only when it effects our perfect little lives is when we notice it’s an issue..!!! THAT HAS TO CHANGE!!! Seriously!! 😒😢
I too suffered from Visual Snow and Depersonalization very badly for around a year after an incident where I was regularly taking oxycodone and ended up getting high on gasoline which felt like the effects remained the next day
My heart broke watching a video of his father cleaning up the broken glass around his house from the SWAT team. He seemed like a good hard working man and proud father. His family’s lives are forever changed and are grieving, all without the support and compassion from the public. I really hope people are kind to them and treat them as victims of their son’s actions as well.
That guy is a classic sociopath. He is very cruel; has no remorse; and is where he deserves. His condition is worth examining and study by scientists. He threw his own life away. Is he angling for being ruled clinically insane and getting a lighter sentence? However, he horribly killed 4 innocent people. That must not be forgotten. He can write his books from a high-security psychiatric facility or jail.
Many people suffer from these types of symptoms but it’s whether they make the Choice to get help and do the hard work to heal that makes the difference