CNN: Ex-Trump White House attorney says Trump’s new ‘report’ could backfire

Former President Donald Trump announced he is planning to release a new “report” with allegations of election fraud in Georgia. Federal and state officials in Georgia have repeatedly debunked Trump’s claims of widespread election fraud in Georgia during the 2020 election. A former White House attorney for President Trump, Ty Cobb, says this report could be used as evidence against Trump. #CNN #News

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AND GOOD EVENING, I’M ERIN BURNETT. OUT FRONT TONIGHT, TEN DAYS TO HIMSELF IN, AS TRUMP CLAIMS THE D.A., FANI WILLIS AS FAILED, AND PROMISES TO FLOOD THE ZONE FALSELY TALES ABOUT FRAUD IN THE GEORGIA ELECTION, FORCING GEORGIA’S CONCERT OF GOVERNOR, BRIAN KEMP, WHO BY THE WAY SUPPORTED TRUMP AND SAID HE

VOTED FOR HIM, AND PRETEND TO SAY, QUOTE, THE 2020 ELECTION IN GEORGIA WAS NOT STOLEN. FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS, NOW ANYONE WITH EVIDENCE OF FRAUD HAS FAILED TO COME FORWARD, UNDER OATH, AND PROVIDE ANYTHING IN A COURT OF LAW. OUR ELECTIONS IN GEORGIA ARE SECURE ACCESSIBLE AND WILL

CONTINUE TO BE AS LONG AS I’M GOVERNOR. WELL OF COURSE, THE FACTS REMAIN FACTS, AND THE FICTION, THE FALSEHOOD IS STILL BELIEVING BY TENS OF MILLIONS, MANY TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. AND TONIGHT, AS TRUMP AND 18 OTHERS HAVE TEN DAYS TO TURN THEMSELVES IN, FACING SERIOUS CRIMINAL CHARGES.

AND BY THE WAY, SERIOUS PRISON TIME, AS IN POSSIBLY MORE THAN 20 YEARS IF CONVICTED. ONE OF THEM IS MAKING A MOVE FORGETTABLE JAIL FREE CARD. MARK MEADOWS, TRUMP’S FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF, FILING A COURT ORDER TO MOVE HIS CASE TO FEDERAL COURT, IN EFFORT TO GET IT DISMISSED.

NOW WE’RE GONNA HAVE MORE ON THIS BREAKING DEVELOP IN JUST A MOMENT. BECAUSE THE REALITY HERE IS THAT THE CLOCK IS TICKING. FINN WILLIS SAYS SHE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TRUMP IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, WHICH WOULD BE JUST ONE CASE AGAINST TRUMP, OF MANY GOING TO TRIAL, WHEN THE WINTER AND SPRING.

AND JUST THINK ABOUT IT, IN ALL, TRUMP, WHO IS BY FAR THE FRONT RUNNER IN THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL FIELD, IS FACING AN ASTOUNDING 91 CRIMINAL TOTAL CHARGES IN — . WE SHOULD SAY THIS AGAIN, CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THE PERSON WHO IS RIGHT NOW SORT OF IN LINE TO GET THAT REPUBLICAN NOMINATION,

IS FACING 91 CRIMINAL CHARGES? IT IS HISTORICAL, IT IS INCREDIBLE, AND IT IS ASTOUNDING. WELL IN A MOMENT, I’M GOING TO SPEAK TO TRUMP’S FORMER WHITE HOUSE LAWYER, TY COBB. BUT FIRST, I WANT TO GO OUT FRONT LIVE TO PAULA REID, STILL AT THAT ATLANTA COURTHOUSE. AND PAULA NOW, TEN DAYS TO TURN

THEMSELVES IN. BUT THESE BREAKING DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PAST FEW MINUTES HERE, WHAT MORE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS FILING BY MARK MEADOWS, WHO WAS SO CRUCIAL, AND SO CENTRAL IN ALL OF THIS. AND, WHAT’S NEXT IN THE CASE? >> SO ERIN, WE’VE LEARNED THAT IN THIS FILING, MARK MEADOWS IS

ATTEMPTING TO MOVE THE STATE PROSECUTION TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL. HIS ATTORNEYS BELIEVE THAT IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL GETTING THIS MOVED TO THE FEDERAL JURISDICTION, THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT DISMISSED. NOW, EVEN IF HE IS SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING THIS MOVE TO A FEDERAL, A FEDERAL COURT, IT

DOESN’T MOVE THE ENTIRE 19 DEFENDANT CASE. THIS OATS PIECE ON THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN, DEFENDANT BY, DEFENDANT. AND WE WERE NOT REPORTING THAT MULTIPLE OTHER DEFENDANTS ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO ATTEND THIS. RUDY GIULIANI SAID TODAY, IN AN INTERVIEW, BUT HE IS GOING TO TRY TO GET HIS CASE MOVED THROUGH FEDERAL COURT.

AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS EXPECTED TO TRY AS WELL. NOW, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING IT DISMISSED. IT’S JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW IF THAT WILL PREVAIL. IF THEY CAN GET THIS MOVE TO A FEDERAL COURT, THE ONE BIG ADVANTAGE FOR THE FORMER

PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES, WOULD BE THE JURY POOL. BECAUSE HERE IN FULTON COUNTY, JURY POOL SKEWS HEAVILY DEMOCRATIC. BUT THE FEDERAL JURY POOL WITHDRAW FROM A MORE BROAD SELECTION OF PEOPLE. SO THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST A SLIGHT ADVANTAGE THERE. THERE IS ALSO THE POSSIBILITY THAT ANYONE WHO IS CONVICTED

COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A PARDON, FROM A FUTURE PRESIDENT. NOW RIGHT NOW ERIN, RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, THEY HAVE JUST TEN DAYS FOR THEIR SURRENDER. AND THEN A JUDGE WILL SET DATES, FOR THESE INITIAL APPEARANCES. >> ALL RIGHT, PAULA THANK YOU VERY MUCH. — AT A COURTHOUSE.

AND OUT FRONT NOW, TY COBB, THE FORMER TRUMP WHITE HOUSE LAWYER. SO TY, I WANT TO START WITH PAULO’S REPORTING HERE. MARK MEADOWS WANTS TO CHANGE THE VENUE, TO TRY AND AVOID THE CHARGES, OPENING HIMSELF UP POSSIBLY TO A PARDON, RIGHT, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. HE IS CHARGED HERE IN THE

GEORGIA CASE, BUT NOT BY JACK SMITH IN THE FEDERAL DOJ CASE. SO, DO THESE CHARGES BY FANI WILLIS CHANGE ANYTHING, FOR WHAT’S AT STAKE FOR MARK MEADOWS? IF HE DID COOPERATE WITH JACK SMITH ON THE FEDERAL CASE, AS I KNOW YOU THINK HE DID. >> YES, I DON’T HAVE ANY DOUBT

THAT HE COOPERATED IN THE FEDERAL CASE. AND, THE FACT THAT HE DIDN’T HAVE IMMUNITY, OR WHATEVER DEAL HE GOT WITH THE FEDS, WITH FANI WILLIS DOES NOT INDICATE THAT HE DID NOT COOPERATE WITH THE FEDS. THEY ARE VERY ACTIVE, ON THEIR BEHALF. AND WITH REGARD TO HIS ATTEMPT

TO MOVE THE VENUE TO, AND MOVE THE CASE TO A FEDERAL COURT, OF THE 19 DEFENDANTS, I THINK MEADOWS IS THE ONLY PERSON WITH AN ARGUABLE CHANCE OF SUCCEEDING. HE IS CHARGED IN THE RICO COUNT, AND THEN TWO COUNTS RELATED TO THE TELEPHONE CALL WITH BRAD RAFFENSPERGER, WHERE TRUMP

ASKED FOR ONE MORE VOTE THEN THEY HAD. AS I BELIEVE HIS MOTION REFLECTS, HE IS CHARGED ESSENTIALLY WITH SETTING UP AND ATTENDING MEETINGS DOING SCHEDULING, AND GOING TO A FEDERAL BUILDING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NOT COMPELLING, FOR KEEPING IT IN A STATE COURT. I THINK THERE IS A CHANCE, NOT

NECESSARILY A GREAT CHANCE, BUT THERE IS A DECENT CHANCE THAT MARK MEADOWS’S CASE COULD BE REMOVED. TRUMP CAN NEVER BE REMOVED, NONE OF THE OTHER DEFENDANTS ACTUALLY HAVE THE BENEFIT OF FEDERAL SERVICE, GIVING THEM THE TIME FOR THEIR OFFENSES, THAT WOULD QUALIFY THEM UNDER THIS STATUTE. >> ALL RIGHT, AN INTERESTING

VIEW THAT YOU THINK THAT HAS A CHANCE, A CHANCE, I THINK ARE NOT OVEREMPHASIZE IN THIS. YOU DO THINK HE HAS A CHANCE. SO WHAT ABOUT HOW THIS MOVES? I MEAN FANI MILLA WILLIS MAY, CLEARLY WANT SOMEBODY, FATUOUS TO GET THAT WITHIN SIX MONTHS. IS THERE ANY CHANCE FIRST WILL

TIE, THAT FANI WILLIS FOCUS FOR JACK SMITH? >> NO. THERE IS NO CHANCE, IN MY VIEW, THAT FANI WILLIS GOES WITHIN TWO YEARS. >> TWO YEARS? >> YES, THAT WOULD BE MY ESTIMATED TIME. THERE ARE 19 DEFENDANTS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CHARGES. EVERYBODY WILL HAVE MOTIONS GALORE. I DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE

REPORTING I HEARD TODAY, WHERE PEOPLE WERE SAYING NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE THE MOTIONS, BUT THEN TO BE ABLE TO APPEAL THE MOTIONS. THE REALITY IS, YOU DON’T GET TO APPEAL A LOT OF TRIAL COURT MOTIONS, ABSENT THE PERMISSION OF THE JUDGE, OR A CONSTITUTIONAL OPPORTUNITY. SO, I WOULDN’T WORRY SO MUCH

ABOUT THAT. BUT THIS CASE WILL TAKE A LONG TIME TO BE PREPARED, THERE WILL BE MOTIONS FOR SEVERANCE, MOTIONS TO DISMISS. AND, IF IT TAKES HER TWO YEARS. I MEAN HEAVEN FORBID THAT TRUMP WINS THE PRESIDENCY, THEN THERE WILL BE A FIGHT TO THE SUPREME COURT, OVER WHETHER SHE CAN

PROCEED AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT DURING HIS TERM. THAT’S AN ISSUE THAT’S NEVER BEEN RESOLVED. THE FEDERAL PROSECUTORS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO INDICT OR PROSECUTE A PRESIDENT DURING HIS TERM. BUT AS TO STATE COURT, PROSECUTORS, THAT ISSUE HAS NEVER RESOLVED, AND IT COULD DELAY THINGS QUITE SOME TIME.

>> SO WHAT IS YOUR BOTTOM LINE, IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY OF THE? CASE THE TIMING, HEAR YOUR SIGNAL IS QUITE RETRACTED AT BEST. BUT WHAT’S YOUR BOTTOM? LINE >> I THINK THERE IS A VERY EFFECTIVE INDICTMENT, DON’T GET ME WRONG. THE 161% SPECIFIC ACTS, SHE’S

GOT A LOT OF PROOF AS TO THE BULK OF THOSE. YOU KNOW MY ONLY CRITICISM, I DISAGREE WITH CHRIS CHRISTIE, BUT IN A PRINCIPLED WAY. I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT, TO GEORGIA AND CERTAINLY IMPORTANT TO HER, TO HAVE TRUMP AS THE DEFENDANT. IT WILL BE A LITTLE HARD TO

EXPLAIN TO THE JURY WHY YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE ACOLYTES, BUT NOT THE KING PIN IN A RICO CASE. SO, I THINK SHE DID THE RIGHT THING. INDICTING TRUMP. I THINK SHE DID ADD SOME PRETTY FRINGE DEFENDANTS. I’M NOT SURE JENNA ELLIS, WHO WAS NEVER MAKING POLICY DECISIONS OR INDEPENDENT

DECISIONS, OR SOME OF THE LOCAL ATTORNEYS WHO WERE MERELY SERVING THE WISHES OF SYDNEY POWELL AND RUDY GIULIANI. AND, I’M NOT SURE SHE CAN PROVE THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE BEING LIED TO. I THINK THERE ARE SOME — THAT RAISE ISSUES. BUT THE CORE OF THIS AGAINST TRUMP, AND THE SIGNIFICANT

DEFENDANTS, IS VERY VERY STRONG. >> ALL RIGHT, SO TRUMP SAYS HE’S GOING TO BE GIVEN A QUOTE, MAJOR NEWS CONFERENCE, HIS WORDS OBVIOUSLY. HE SAYS YOU HE WILL PRESENT A LARGE COMPLEX DETAIL, BUT YOUR FUTILE WILL REPORT ON THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WHICH TOOK PLACE IN GEORGIA. OF COURSE TIE, THERE WAS NO

FRAUD IN GEORGIA. BRIAN KEMP IS AS CONSERVATIVE AS A REPUBLICAN COMES. AND HE HAS BEEN VERY LOUD AND CLEAR, THAT THERE’S NO FRAUD IN GEORGIA, ON AND ON. IT’S RIDICULOUS TO EVEN GO THROUGH IT. BUT YET, THIS IS WHAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS GOING TO DO NEXT WEEK, AND IS GOING TO TRY

TO FLOODED THE AIRWAVES WITH. WHAT IS HE DOING, WITH THAT? >> YEAH, THIS IS ALL, THIS IS ALL TRUMP PR. THIS IS GENERATING CHAOS. I MEAN FRANKLY, THERE’S A GOOD CHANCE THAT WHATEVER DOCUMENT HE PRODUCES ENDS UP AS EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM, AND COULD EVEN END UP NOW AS THE BASIS FOR AN

OBSTRUCTION COUNT AGAINST THE AUTHOR. BECAUSE, IT’S LIKELY TO BE FICTION. AND SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONTAMINATING THE JURY POOL. THE REALITY IS, BRIAN KEMP AND BRAD RAFFENSPERGER EACH DESERVE A PAT ON THE BACK, FOR THE COURAGE THAT THEY’VE SHOWN, PUTTING COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY. AND I THINK, THE ABSENCE OF

EVIDENCE OF FRAUD IS PATENTLY OBVIOUS OBVIOUS TO ANYBODY WHO’S FOLLOWED THE GEORGIA EVENTS, AND CERTAINLY ANYBODY WHO READS THIS INDICTMENT WILL,

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